Learning, Hope What it takes to live with our hearts and integrity intact in this time of global crisis.

"This podcast arose from Jess Serrante and Joanna’s regular conversations about the beauty and pain of our personal lives (love, heartbreak, aging, loss), the events of our world (climate catastrophe, COVID, social injustice), and the Great Turning that we commit ourselves to be a part of every day." Photo by Brooke Porter

"We welcome you to the kitchen table of the legendary eco-spiritual teacher Joanna Macy....You’ll be guided into these conversations by Jess Serrante, a longtime activist and student of Joanna’s. Together, we’ll discover abiding wisdom that can help us stay joyful and energized as we work toward a more just and life-sustaining world." "...We’ve recorded these talks with you in mind—a welcome guest at Joanna’s kitchen table, bringing all your heart, creativity, and courage to an undertaking that impacts us all." Podcast Series: We Are the Great Turning